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David
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You people in Aruba know what happened to Miss Hollaway,it's obvious by the way the suspects were not detained until two weeks had gone by!
It looks to me like the Aruban Govt.
was waiting to see what kind of publicity this case was going to generat
before they took action!
They would have found her if imediate
action would have been taken,which tells me that they know what happened to her and are covering up for a judges
son who looks like a spoiled little
brat and who needs his butt kicked for
what he has done!
I hope you people have money stashed
because you are going to pay one way or another and I for one am going to deter
anyone I know from going to Aruba and will bet you I can help that Island of
lowlifes go broke just by negative reviews
of Aruba!
Like I said you are going to pay one way or another!( I promise you that!)
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rob
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| no body, no clothing, now aruba officials let these brothers go. Something stinks here. the island will be hurt from lack of tourisum!!
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John
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| My Fellow Americans; Let's heap our outrage where it belongs. It was not a vast island conspiracy that caused Natalee's disapperance. I've not been to this island, but in watching all the news from there, it's apparent to me that the people of Aruba are good people. IF IF IF the Van Der Sloot kid, or, another person eventually is found to have harmed Miss Holloway, let justice be done, to the max. In the meanwhile, let's not condemn the entire population. God Bless the girl's family that is distraught and heartbroken, and God Bless the good people of Aruba.
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Mary
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| After watching tv and hearing all the facts in the case, I have a few things I want to put out there. Aruba as a country did NOT do anything to Natalee Hollaway, it was a person or herself. I honestly think that she was slipped something in her drink at Carlos N Charlies such as Extacy or another powerful drug. Which would explain why she was "tippsy" and not coherent when she left the bar. I also believe that Joran did take her to a beach and they were making out or what normal kids do, and she died from the over dose. Being teenagers and being scared, I think the dad and the friends were brought in to "get rid" of her...The other possibility could be that she was left alone on the beach a Joran says and was kidnapped and taken into white slavery...it happens!! But to blame a whole country for 1 girl that was out having fun with friends, drinking, leaving with folks she didn't know, and then disappearing is ludicrous. The country is not at fault!! I feel terrible for Natalee's family and extend my hopeful wishes that she is still alive and well. jmo Mary from USA
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Rick
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| Hi, I am from Canada. I landed in Aruba and went to the Holiday Inn on May 29th - the day before Natalee went missing. Let me tell you something - I did not see one local police officer in that hotel - as a male guest staying with another male guest, I would have thought the place would be crawling with local police at least questioning everyone there in order to determine if anyone saw her. Nothing! The only presence at that hotel was her family organizing a search for their daughter and the American news media (thank God for the pressure the American News media exerted on the local justice system otherwise I don't think the locals would have done anything). That being said, the locals should be ashamed at how long it took them to organize a search and how long it took them to detain and interrogate the people that were last seen with her. The outside world needs to keep the pressure on these people to determine what has happened to this young girl. Every day I hope to see the U.S. Authorities ask people not to travel to Aruba until the case is solved - it is the only way the local Government will put the appropriate resources to solving it. Trust me, that judge they brought in from the local island of Curacao spent his weekends golfing with Paul Van der Sloot - both islands are under Dutch rule and the legal circle is very small. Americans, stay away until the Aruban/Dutch Government puts a real effort into this search!
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That “1 girl” is a human being, a beautiful child that cannot be replaced. JUST ONE is way too many a person to be missing. I’m a mother of five, 4 of them girls. We’ve been to the Island, it’s beautiful and so are the people. I can’t say what it’s like after dark, I know better but I certainly would not leave with strangers….BUT WAIT, if I were drugged, how would I know I was leaving with strangers?
In support of Natalee and her family, I will not be going to Aruba AND I must tell you, Aruba was a lifetime dream of mine, to go there and return each year.
If I were the Gov. and calling the shots on that Island, I would have allowed the US, FBI, etc., to run the investigation without delay. We have the advanced technology, resources and skills to conduct such an investigation and I believe it would have been solved by now.
For this, I will not be going to Aruba. Also, if they are covering up for the suspect, more reason for me not to go. A Judge? I don’t give a hoot who they are, I want to know about Natalee, don’t you?
There are NO excuses. Rich or poor, it doesn’t matter to me, a life is a life. And to those ctiticizing about all the publicity and media exposure for Natalee?
It’s her MOM who is doing all the exhausting, work in a desperate search for her daughter.
Natalee cannot be replaced. My heart BLEEDS for her and her family. Please, every single one of us make a difference regardless of our opinions. It is Natalee and her family that we must support as they are the victims here. The people of Aruba, the Gov., etc., They can all wake up to another day…
Natalee cannot.
PLEASE BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE HOLLAWAYS
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Mac
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These three men are animals of the lowest form. They took advantage of a young women for their own selfish and base instincts. Whatever went wrong, none of them did anything to assure her safety.
God is cradling Natallie tonight. The guilty have no way out!
P.S. If I were a chaperone, I would have camped my ass at the exit door! No one! No one from my group would have left that establishment without me.
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jack
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| for those of you who think it's not the island itself who has does something bad...that's true...but look at it this way...i know i will not go there because of the fact that they did not investigate soon enough to find the evidence needed...also it has been two months now...seriously...they must know something and are covering it up for the father and son van der sloot.
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First of all I have to say it's terrible what has happened to Natalee. The next point I want to make is... what kind of friends was she with that would let her leave a bar with a stranger from a foreign country by herself? I mean, come on. My friends would NEVER let me go off by myself with some guy I just met. You always want to because it's the alcohol and your hormones talking.
One of her friends at the bar should have told her it's a bed idea to go off with strangers.
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GNASH20045
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| DO you know if Natalee Hollaway had any brothers or sisters. Was she an only child no mention of other family.
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GNASH20045
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| I agree where were her friends and chaperones?
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jonpop123
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| Are there any pictures of the three boys and Natilee taken in the bar? Does the bar have video camera's with the pictures of that night? What about outher witnesses? It wouold seem that a search warrant could be obtained to search the van der Sloot's place. Why won't he allow them to search, is he hidding something? Besides, Is the father involved in this more than has been shown?
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First of all I have to say it's terrible what has happened to Natalee. The next point I want to make is... what kind of friends was she with that would let her leave a bar with a stranger from a foreign country by herself? I mean, come on. My friends would NEVER let me go off by myself with some guy I just met. You always want to because it's the alcohol and your hormones talking.
One of her friends at the bar should have told her it's a bed idea to go off with strangers.
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whatever happend to that duct tape they found on the beach? was it her hair they found in it?
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| How can u blame a hole island of the action of 3 men who btw are not arubians. What happen to natalee is very sad. bud how can u go with 3 strangers u barely know. if she had, so called "friends" they shouldn't let her go with 3 men she barely know.
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I AM SO SAD FOR HER FAMILY, TO KNOW YOUR DAUGHTER HAS BEEN MISSING FOR MONTHS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED TO HER, I PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND THE ONES WHO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.
GOD BLESS
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rdcshsi
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I would like to know if Natalee's roomates have ever spoken up about why none of them were alarmed when she didn't come back to the room that night, all of her friends say she was a very respectable girl, so a person would think that they would have notified the chaperones when they realized she never came in or at the very least in the morning when she wasn't there when they woke up. It sounds like nobody even mentioned that she was missing until they got to the airport to fly home.
Has anyone heard any comments on this?
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lindamccloskey
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WHERE IS NATALIE? I AM SO SAD SHE HAS YET TO BE FOUND! HER MOM DESERVES TO KNOW WHERE HER CHILD IS! SOME ONE BESIDES THE BOYS AND THE DAD KNOW WHERE SHE IS THEY HAVE TO IT IS TOO BIG OF A COVER UP! GIVE THIS MOTHER BACK HER CHILD! IF SHE IS IN GODS ARMS A LEAST THE MOM CAN HAVE PEACE IN HER HEART! IF SHE IS ALIVE THEN LET HER MOM TAKE HER HOME! WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE AFRAID OF AND HOW MANY MORE COVER UPS ARE THERE ON THE LOCAL GIRLS THERE ARE THE JUST LOST AND FORGOTTEN? i AM HERE TO TELL YOU THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT FORGET THERE OWN WE WONT GIVE UP TILL WE FIND OUT WHAT HAS HAPPEND TO THIS PRECIOUS LITTLE GIRL!
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| Rick from Canada...I agree with your previous post. I'm afraid to travel anywhere outside of the US (where the FBI DOES have jurisdiction - cruises included) Aruba the Island may not be responsible for the disappearance of Natalee, but I worry that if something were to happen to me or one of my family members...NOTHING would be done to locate us. This holds true for anywhere. I agree that Americans should boycott the island. This major cover up, coo, conspiracy, etc. can happen anywhere and you need to beware! I can't believe they would risk millions of tourist dollars for one moran judge that won't even be on that island in a couple of years anyway.
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| I've been keeping up with all the news coverage about Natalee and it seems to me she nowhere in this place called Aruba. I feel she has been misplaced in another area. I maybe wrong. I pray for her safe return. I also pray for the other people involved. This could happen anywhere in the world and if you think about it, it already has. The truth will be revealed one day if not soon. GOD see's everything we do and he will handled IT!!!
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| 1259 wrote:
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First of all I have to say it's terrible what has happened to Natalee. The next point I want to make is... what kind of friends was she with that would let her leave a bar with a stranger from a foreign country by herself? I mean, come on. My friends would NEVER let me go off by myself with some guy I just met. You always want to because it's the alcohol and your hormones talking.
One of her friends at the bar should have told her it's a bed idea to go off with strangers.
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No, first of all how can you say that? Of course they should have but keep in mind these are only 18 year old children that you are reffering to that just lost one of there best friends. Don't you think they all ready think that with out you saying it? All in all it does not matter if someone should have stopped her that night, the damage is done. The main focus should be on justice to the person who did it not mistakes that were made!
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Grace Erick
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Hi,
This kind of treatment may be expected once you leave the U.S. This is what we all have to deal with when we travel, though some gov't people are more likely to pull you over in your car and say you did something wrong and try to extract a fine (for their pocket) from you, but jail is also a possibility depending where you go.
As to why Natalie went with 3 guys, I think the jury is out on that or I'm a bit confused. I thought she was just with Juron, but I think I also heard she was with the other two, so what's up with that? Like someone mentioned already, maybe she was slipped something in her drink. I wouldn't call her irresponsible at this point or ......loose, and even so, she does not deserve to die for her error in judgement or being sexually premiscuous if that's even the case.
Now they are saying she may have been raped by the 3 of them. If she was a willing participant, I don't think she would be missing now. Those two Calpo brothers are back in jail again.
Is the island (all the people living there) to blame, no, it's the justice system there. No resort, hotel or villa owners want to show the world that you come to Aruba and justice does not prevail. If that wouldn't kill business, nothing else will, so I'm sure everyone wants Natalie to surface and want Juron brought to justice, and those brothers too. They know something at the very least.
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It so sad to think about the evil those three men conducted that night.
I think all three of them probably raped then murdered Natilee. It so scary when were reminded that monsters like Jordan and the other two men actually live in our world. Shame on their parents for raising such monsters!!
My tears and prayers are with the Holloway family. I hope that they can find Natilee's body and bring her home. Also, I hope swift justice comes down on these three men and they spend the rest of their days in prison!
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| How can you blame her friends outof all the young kids .she was the only to go off. she was 18 with a mind of her own.It is sad .but do not blame the wrong people.
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| I wish the news media would still keep us up on the Hollway case or at least the family to let us know what else they are doing to keep the investigation open. My personal opinion is that Natalie is on the VanDerSluth property as they asked the father if they could search the property and he knew that they had to give permission before they searched and so he said "no". He, as a judge, knew they couldn't do it without his permission. I thought the mother and stepfather were not going to leave until they found her. Does anyone know anything else?
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I hope the American people take a good look at what happened to the family of Natalie Hollaway in Aruba, and realize that it could have or still might be them. The island of Aruba and the dutch government have no intention of doing anything to the 3 boys who raped and murdered Natalie.
All they did was wait and bide there time till a bigger news story happened in America. Now this shows you how sneeky they are. I would not spend one cent on an island were they could care less about a tourist.All they want is the money. So I say boycott Aruba and any other place who has a dutch influance.
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I will never set foot on Aruban soil, Dutch or otherwise. Or a cruise scheduled to dock in Aruba. What the Aruban/Dutch government allowed to happen in Aruba was/is unbelievable in our so-called civilized world. Urine Van der Slut and his baby face hide a demon within. His parents should be ashamed. They have spawned an evil being. The Calpoe brothers--evil incarnate. Just as in an old USA movie with an actress by the name of Tierney, who commited evil acts against the innocent, the title was so appropriate: Leave Her to Heaven; all involved in a beautiful young woman's disappearance or worse, police, judges, government, etc. all corrupt within, I say: Leave them to Heaven. For everything in life you pay either here while alive or later when you die. Good riddance to all of you. You disgrace the human race and defile the face of the Earth.
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kouklapet
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ATTENTION ARUBA
WE WILL BOYCOTT YOUR COUNTRY....WE ALL KNOW YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPEND TO HER..
I OWN A LARGE TRAVEL AGENCY IN CALIFORNIA, AND HAVE ACCESS TO ALL ANGENCIES IN THE WORLD.
I ALSO WORK WITH ALL CRUISE LINES..
IF SOMEONE DOESN'T START TALKING AND TELLING THE TRUTH, YOUR COUNTRY WILL BE HURTING..
YOU BETTER TELL US WHAT HAPPEND TO NATALIE HOLLAWAY!!!!
NO MORE TOURISUM....NONE...EVER....
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KATERS44
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I went on my senior trip. I know what the chaperones are for (Nothing--I barely saw mine the entire trip). I was in a similar situation: drugged and waking up in a strange place not knowing what happened or what would happen. I thank God everyday that I lived to tell about it. I cringe at the thought of another young woman facing a similar situation who was not as fortunate as I was. I know that I made poor decisions that led me to end up in the situation I was in. All of us make poor decisions at some point in our lives, but should someone have to DIE for making a mistake?
How does someone vanish with nothing left behind? They had three people in custody that very well know what happened, but yet will not force them to speak. It is a very good thing that this crime did not happen in the U.S. I do not believe in torturing human beings, however, in following this story it is difficult not consider changing my opinion. These young men, whether they actually killed her, or left her at a beach alone in the middle of the night are guilty. What sort of people make the decisions that these young men made? They have already proven that they are incapable of telling the truth. They have already proven that their stories do not coincide. They have already proven that they did not have an aliby for that night other than each other. What more does the Dutch government need to actually do something legitimate about this case? They wouldn't let our FBI do what they do best because they are afraid. Whether Natalee Hollaway is found dead on their island or whether she is never found, their tourism will suffer. The best decision to make at this point is to find her, whatever the cost. The ONLY way of preserving some sort of good reputation for Aruba is for the government to do the right thing. FIND NATALEE!!!!!
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| What difference does it make if natalee was a slut does it give thr three punks a right to do away with her?
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| [B][I]I am shocked and disgusted with the way the Natalee Hollaway case has been handled.My thoughts and prayer are with her family, and I PRAY THAT FINALLY BETH CAN HAVE SOME WELL DESERVED ANSWERS!! I WILL NEVER VISIT THE COUNTRY OF ARUBA, THE PEOPLE ARE LOVLEY, THE POLICE AND PROCECUTORS NEED TO HAVE THEIR HEADS EXAMINED!!
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| We must never forget how fortunate we are, although we complain some, to live in this wonderful country. We have beaches and islands, much more beautiful than Aruba...... Why have we gotten so accustomed to traveling out of our country, where they don't have our wonderful constitution happening. In Aruba, people are not equal. That was proven over and over. The reason all of the evidence that was given, either disappeard, or was discarded, or overlooked, or ignored, is because Mr. Paulus Van dersloot is a priviledged character. Aruba might have some nice people there, but you have to admit, nobody wants to come forward with knowledge, they will pay with there life more than likely. There is a much feared underworld there. Wouldn't it be something if a couple of good ole Bama boys found there way down there, and looked up a couple of Kapose brothers. Lets call Natalee a slut in front of them. Ain't it something how he can know her for one hour, after she was given something, and pronounce her a slut. I know I would like to slap him around a bit....
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