You people in Aruba know what happened to Miss Hollaway,it's obvious by the way the suspects were not detained until two weeks had gone by!
It looks to me like the Aruban Govt.
was waiting to see what kind of publicity this case was going to generat
before they took action!
They would have found her if imediate
action would have been taken,which tells me that they know what happened to her and are covering up for a judges
son who looks like a spoiled little
brat and who needs his butt kicked for
what he has done!
I hope you people have money stashed
because you are going to pay one way or another and I for one am going to deter
anyone I know from going to Aruba and will bet you I can help that Island of
lowlifes go broke just by negative reviews
of Aruba!
Like I said you are going to pay one way or another!( I promise you that!)

no body, no clothing, now aruba officials let these brothers go. Something stinks here. the island will be hurt from lack of tourisum!!

My Fellow Americans; Let's heap our outrage where it belongs. It was not a vast island conspiracy that caused Natalee's disapperance. I've not been to this island, but in watching all the news from there, it's apparent to me that the people of Aruba are good people. IF IF IF the Van Der Sloot kid, or, another person eventually is found to have harmed Miss Holloway, let justice be done, to the max. In the meanwhile, let's not condemn the entire population. God Bless the girl's family that is distraught and heartbroken, and God Bless the good people of Aruba.

After watching tv and hearing all the facts in the case, I have a few things I want to put out there. Aruba as a country did NOT do anything to Natalee Hollaway, it was a person or herself. I honestly think that she was slipped something in her drink at Carlos N Charlies such as Extacy or another powerful drug. Which would explain why she was "tippsy" and not coherent when she left the bar. I also believe that Joran did take her to a beach and they were making out or what normal kids do, and she died from the over dose. Being teenagers and being scared, I think the dad and the friends were brought in to "get rid" of her...The other possibility could be that she was left alone on the beach a Joran says and was kidnapped and taken into white slavery...it happens!! But to blame a whole country for 1 girl that was out having fun with friends, drinking, leaving with folks she didn't know, and then disappearing is ludicrous. The country is not at fault!! I feel terrible for Natalee's family and extend my hopeful wishes that she is still alive and well. jmo Mary from USA

Hi, I am from Canada. I landed in Aruba and went to the Holiday Inn on May 29th - the day before Natalee went missing. Let me tell you something - I did not see one local police officer in that hotel - as a male guest staying with another male guest, I would have thought the place would be crawling with local police at least questioning everyone there in order to determine if anyone saw her. Nothing! The only presence at that hotel was her family organizing a search for their daughter and the American news media (thank God for the pressure the American News media exerted on the local justice system otherwise I don't think the locals would have done anything). That being said, the locals should be ashamed at how long it took them to organize a search and how long it took them to detain and interrogate the people that were last seen with her. The outside world needs to keep the pressure on these people to determine what has happened to this young girl. Every day I hope to see the U.S. Authorities ask people not to travel to Aruba until the case is solved - it is the only way the local Government will put the appropriate resources to solving it. Trust me, that judge they brought in from the local island of Curacao spent his weekends golfing with Paul Van der Sloot - both islands are under Dutch rule and the legal circle is very small. Americans, stay away until the Aruban/Dutch Government puts a real effort into this search!

That “1 girl” is a human being, a beautiful child that cannot be replaced. JUST ONE is way too many a person to be missing. I’m a mother of five, 4 of them girls. We’ve been to the Island, it’s beautiful and so are the people. I can’t say what it’s like after dark, I know better but I certainly would not leave with strangers….BUT WAIT, if I were drugged, how would I know I was leaving with strangers?

In support of Natalee and her family, I will not be going to Aruba AND I must tell you, Aruba was a lifetime dream of mine, to go there and return each year.

If I were the Gov. and calling the shots on that Island, I would have allowed the US, FBI, etc., to run the investigation without delay. We have the advanced technology, resources and skills to conduct such an investigation and I believe it would have been solved by now.

For this, I will not be going to Aruba. Also, if they are covering up for the suspect, more reason for me not to go. A Judge? I don’t give a hoot who they are, I want to know about Natalee, don’t you?

There are NO excuses. Rich or poor, it doesn’t matter to me, a life is a life. And to those ctiticizing about all the publicity and media exposure for Natalee?

It’s her MOM who is doing all the exhausting, work in a desperate search for her daughter.

Natalee cannot be replaced. My heart BLEEDS for her and her family. Please, every single one of us make a difference regardless of our opinions. It is Natalee and her family that we must support as they are the victims here. The people of Aruba, the Gov., etc., They can all wake up to another day…

Natalee cannot.

PLEASE BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE HOLLAWAYS

These three men are animals of the lowest form. They took advantage of a young women for their own selfish and base instincts. Whatever went wrong, none of them did anything to assure her safety.

God is cradling Natallie tonight. The guilty have no way out!



P.S. If I were a chaperone, I would have camped my ass at the exit door! No one! No one from my group would have left that establishment without me.

for those of you who think it's not the island itself who has does something bad...that's true...but look at it this way...i know i will not go there because of the fact that they did not investigate soon enough to find the evidence needed...also it has been two months now...seriously...they must know something and are covering it up for the father and son van der sloot.

First of all I have to say it's terrible what has happened to Natalee. The next point I want to make is... what kind of friends was she with that would let her leave a bar with a stranger from a foreign country by herself? I mean, come on. My friends would NEVER let me go off by myself with some guy I just met. You always want to because it's the alcohol and your hormones talking.

One of her friends at the bar should have told her it's a bed idea to go off with strangers.

DO you know if Natalee Hollaway had any brothers or sisters. Was she an only child no mention of other family.

I agree where were her friends and chaperones?

Are there any pictures of the three boys and Natilee taken in the bar? Does the bar have video camera's with the pictures of that night? What about outher witnesses? It wouold seem that a search warrant could be obtained to search the van der Sloot's place. Why won't he allow them to search, is he hidding something? Besides, Is the father involved in this more than has been shown?

1259 wrote:First of all I have to say it's terrible what has happened to Natalee. The next point I want to make is... what kind of friends was she with that would let her leave a bar with a stranger from a foreign country by herself? I mean, come on. My friends would NEVER let me go off by myself with some guy I just met. You always want to because it's the alcohol and your hormones talking.

One of her friends at the bar should have told her it's a bed idea to go off with strangers.

whatever happend to that duct tape they found on the beach? was it her hair they found in it?

How can u blame a hole island of the action of 3 men who btw are not arubians. What happen to natalee is very sad. bud how can u go with 3 strangers u barely know. if she had, so called "friends" they shouldn't let her go with 3 men she barely know.

I AM SO SAD FOR HER FAMILY, TO KNOW YOUR DAUGHTER HAS BEEN MISSING FOR MONTHS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED TO HER, I PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND THE ONES WHO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.
GOD BLESS

I would like to know if Natalee's roomates have ever spoken up about why none of them were alarmed when she didn't come back to the room that night, all of her friends say she was a very respectable girl, so a person would think that they would have notified the chaperones when they realized she never came in or at the very least in the morning when she wasn't there when they woke up. It sounds like nobody even mentioned that she was missing until they got to the airport to fly home.
Has anyone heard any comments on this?

WHERE IS NATALIE? I AM SO SAD SHE HAS YET TO BE FOUND! HER MOM DESERVES TO KNOW WHERE HER CHILD IS! SOME ONE BESIDES THE BOYS AND THE DAD KNOW WHERE SHE IS THEY HAVE TO IT IS TOO BIG OF A COVER UP! GIVE THIS MOTHER BACK HER CHILD! IF SHE IS IN GODS ARMS A LEAST THE MOM CAN HAVE PEACE IN HER HEART! IF SHE IS ALIVE THEN LET HER MOM TAKE HER HOME! WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE AFRAID OF AND HOW MANY MORE COVER UPS ARE THERE ON THE LOCAL GIRLS THERE ARE THE JUST LOST AND FORGOTTEN? i AM HERE TO TELL YOU THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT FORGET THERE OWN WE WONT GIVE UP TILL WE FIND OUT WHAT HAS HAPPEND TO THIS PRECIOUS LITTLE GIRL!

Rick from Canada...I agree with your previous post. I'm afraid to travel anywhere outside of the US (where the FBI DOES have jurisdiction - cruises included) Aruba the Island may not be responsible for the disappearance of Natalee, but I worry that if something were to happen to me or one of my family members...NOTHING would be done to locate us. This holds true for anywhere. I agree that Americans should boycott the island. This major cover up, coo, conspiracy, etc. can happen anywhere and you need to beware! I can't believe they would risk millions of tourist dollars for one moran judge that won't even be on that island in a couple of years anyway.

I've been keeping up with all the news coverage about Natalee and it seems to me she nowhere in this place called Aruba. I feel she has been misplaced in another area. I maybe wrong. I pray for her safe return. I also pray for the other people involved. This could happen anywhere in the world and if you think about it, it already has. The truth will be revealed one day if not soon. GOD see's everything we do and he will handled IT!!!

1259 wrote:First of all I have to say it's terrible what has happened to Natalee. The next point I want to make is... what kind of friends was she with that would let her leave a bar with a stranger from a foreign country by herself? I mean, come on. My friends would NEVER let me go off by myself with some guy I just met. You always want to because it's the alcohol and your hormones talking.

One of her friends at the bar should have told her it's a bed idea to go off with strangers.

[glow=red]No, first of all how can you say that? Of course they should have but keep in mind these are only 18 year old children that you are reffering to that just lost one of there best friends. Don't you think they all ready think that with out you saying it? All in all it does not matter if someone should have stopped her that night, the damage is done. The main focus should be on justice to the person who did it not mistakes that were made![/glow]

Hi,

This kind of treatment may be expected once you leave the U.S. This is what we all have to deal with when we travel, though some gov't people are more likely to pull you over in your car and say you did something wrong and try to extract a fine (for their pocket) from you, but jail is also a possibility depending where you go.

As to why Natalie went with 3 guys, I think the jury is out on that or I'm a bit confused. I thought she was just with Juron, but I think I also heard she was with the other two, so what's up with that? Like someone mentioned already, maybe she was slipped something in her drink. I wouldn't call her irresponsible at this point or ......loose, and even so, she does not deserve to die for her error in judgement or being sexually premiscuous if that's even the case.

Now they are saying she may have been raped by the 3 of them. If she was a willing participant, I don't think she would be missing now. Those two Calpo brothers are back in jail again.

Is the island (all the people living there) to blame, no, it's the justice system there. No resort, hotel or villa owners want to show the world that you come to Aruba and justice does not prevail. If that wouldn't kill business, nothing else will, so I'm sure everyone wants Natalie to surface and want Juron brought to justice, and those brothers too. They know something at the very least.

It so sad to think about the evil those three men conducted that night.
I think all three of them probably raped then murdered Natilee. It so scary when were reminded that monsters like Jordan and the other two men actually live in our world. Shame on their parents for raising such monsters!!

My tears and prayers are with the Holloway family. I hope that they can find Natilee's body and bring her home. Also, I hope swift justice comes down on these three men and they spend the rest of their days in prison!

How can you blame her friends outof all the young kids .she was the only to go off. she was 18 with a mind of her own.It is sad .but do not blame the wrong people.

I wish the news media would still keep us up on the Hollway case or at least the family to let us know what else they are doing to keep the investigation open. My personal opinion is that Natalie is on the VanDerSluth property as they asked the father if they could search the property and he knew that they had to give permission before they searched and so he said "no". He, as a judge, knew they couldn't do it without his permission. I thought the mother and stepfather were not going to leave until they found her. Does anyone know anything else?

I hope the American people take a good look at what happened to the family of Natalie Hollaway in Aruba, and realize that it could have or still might be them. The island of Aruba and the dutch government have no intention of doing anything to the 3 boys who raped and murdered Natalie.
All they did was wait and bide there time till a bigger news story happened in America. Now this shows you how sneeky they are. I would not spend one cent on an island were they could care less about a tourist.All they want is the money. So I say boycott Aruba and any other place who has a dutch influance.

I will never set foot on Aruban soil, Dutch or otherwise. Or a cruise scheduled to dock in Aruba. What the Aruban/Dutch government allowed to happen in Aruba was/is unbelievable in our so-called civilized world. Urine Van der Slut and his baby face hide a demon within. His parents should be ashamed. They have spawned an evil being. The Calpoe brothers--evil incarnate. Just as in an old USA movie with an actress by the name of Tierney, who commited evil acts against the innocent, the title was so appropriate: Leave Her to Heaven; all involved in a beautiful young woman's disappearance or worse, police, judges, government, etc. all corrupt within, I say: Leave them to Heaven. For everything in life you pay either here while alive or later when you die. Good riddance to all of you. You disgrace the human race and defile the face of the Earth.

ATTENTION ARUBA

WE WILL BOYCOTT YOUR COUNTRY....WE ALL KNOW YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPEND TO HER..

I OWN A LARGE TRAVEL AGENCY IN CALIFORNIA, AND HAVE ACCESS TO ALL ANGENCIES IN THE WORLD.

I ALSO WORK WITH ALL CRUISE LINES..

IF SOMEONE DOESN'T START TALKING AND TELLING THE TRUTH, YOUR COUNTRY WILL BE HURTING..

YOU BETTER TELL US WHAT HAPPEND TO NATALIE HOLLAWAY!!!!

NO MORE TOURISUM....NONE...EVER....

I went on my senior trip. I know what the chaperones are for (Nothing--I barely saw mine the entire trip). I was in a similar situation: drugged and waking up in a strange place not knowing what happened or what would happen. I thank God everyday that I lived to tell about it. I cringe at the thought of another young woman facing a similar situation who was not as fortunate as I was. I know that I made poor decisions that led me to end up in the situation I was in. All of us make poor decisions at some point in our lives, but should someone have to DIE for making a mistake?

How does someone vanish with nothing left behind? They had three people in custody that very well know what happened, but yet will not force them to speak. It is a very good thing that this crime did not happen in the U.S. I do not believe in torturing human beings, however, in following this story it is difficult not consider changing my opinion. These young men, whether they actually killed her, or left her at a beach alone in the middle of the night are guilty. What sort of people make the decisions that these young men made? They have already proven that they are incapable of telling the truth. They have already proven that their stories do not coincide. They have already proven that they did not have an aliby for that night other than each other. What more does the Dutch government need to actually do something legitimate about this case? They wouldn't let our FBI do what they do best because they are afraid. Whether Natalee Hollaway is found dead on their island or whether she is never found, their tourism will suffer. The best decision to make at this point is to find her, whatever the cost. The ONLY way of preserving some sort of good reputation for Aruba is for the government to do the right thing. FIND NATALEE!!!!!

[font=Arial] [/font][font=Lucida Console] [/font][font=Andalus] [/font] What difference does it make if natalee was a slut does it give thr three punks a right to do away with her?

[font=Comic Sans MS] [/font][B][I]I am shocked and disgusted with the way the Natalee Hollaway case has been handled.My thoughts and prayer are with her family, and I PRAY THAT FINALLY BETH CAN HAVE SOME WELL DESERVED ANSWERS!! I WILL NEVER VISIT THE COUNTRY OF ARUBA, THE PEOPLE ARE LOVLEY, THE POLICE AND PROCECUTORS NEED TO HAVE THEIR HEADS EXAMINED!!

We must never forget how fortunate we are, although we complain some, to live in this wonderful country. We have beaches and islands, much more beautiful than Aruba...... Why have we gotten so accustomed to traveling out of our country, where they don't have our wonderful constitution happening. In Aruba, people are not equal. That was proven over and over. The reason all of the evidence that was given, either disappeard, or was discarded, or overlooked, or ignored, is because Mr. Paulus Van dersloot is a priviledged character. Aruba might have some nice people there, but you have to admit, nobody wants to come forward with knowledge, they will pay with there life more than likely. There is a much feared underworld there. Wouldn't it be something if a couple of good ole Bama boys found there way down there, and looked up a couple of Kapose brothers. Lets call Natalee a slut in front of them. Ain't it something how he can know her for one hour, after she was given something, and pronounce her a slut. I know I would like to slap him around a bit....

We must never forget how fortunate we are, although we complain some, to live in this wonderful country. We have beaches and islands, much more beautiful than Aruba...... Why have we gotten so accustomed to traveling out of our country, where they don't have our wonderful constitution happening. In Aruba, people are not equal. That was proven over and over. The reason all of the evidence that was given, either disappeard, or was discarded, or overlooked, or ignored, is because Mr. Paulus Van dersloot is a priviledged character. Aruba might have some nice people there, but you have to admit, nobody wants to come forward with knowledge, they will pay with there life more than likely. There is a much feared underworld there. Wouldn't it be something if a couple of good ole Bama boys found there way down there, and looked up a couple of Kapose brothers. Lets call Natalee a slut in front of them. Ain't it something how he can know her for one hour, after she was given something, and pronounce her a slut. I know I would like to slap him around a bit....

You all have gone nuts!!!! What proof do any of you have that the three boys actually did anything? All we know if what the press tells us and if you tell me that you believe everything the press says, you really are nuts. The people in Aruba are very friendly and nice. You shouldn't not go just because of this. There is no proof that a crime was committed and if there was, there is crime everywhere. Probably even in your own town. Does that mean that you never leave your house? Get real! I feel bad for Natalee's family, but you can't hold an entire country/island guilty because of the potential acts of a few. If that is the case, nobody would go to Jamaica, the Bahamas or Mexico.

Poor girl, the only three people who have admitted to contact with natalee moments before her disappearance have been let go, Even the vandersloot kid mentioned horrible things happened. All have fled, no Duh! Delays at the political level, no duh, just another prime example of power, discrimination, and selfishness on display. If it were some other dad's kid, those three would be fried. Remember OJ. Money can bring you happiness and freedom. You go Mrs. Hollaway! Kick their butt! At least charge em with some type of good samaritan charge for leaving her helpless. Jerk offs! I definitely wouldn't be as calm as you if it were one of my girls.

america is a nice wonderful country lot of good people live there
but u also find some stupid ones.
just like david.(first comment)
who do u think u are??
u are just a barking dog. do u actually think that all your friends will do what you say??

that makes u a stupid empty-headed person who has nothing other than writing sh*t on the internet.!!

u dont have a clue what happend what happend in aruba.
all the stupid news u hear from the media are just from other empty headed peolpe like u...these person are just looking for rating...most what they say was not true!!

stop being a idiot get a life get real go do something productive!

aruba is one of the most corupt countries on earth. lots of drug money little law enforcement. pretty much come and go as you like. the dutch home land could care less what happened to ms. hollaway and most likely would be very happy if the whole mess went away solved or not. law enforcement on arube is very inept and coupled with the "who cares attitude" what should we expect?

aruba is one of the most corupt countries on earth. lots of drug money little law enforcement. pretty much come and go as you like. the dutch home land could care less what happened to ms. hollaway and most likely would be very happy if the whole mess went away solved or not. law enforcement on arube is very inept and coupled with the "who cares attitude" what should we expect?

Joe - maybe you should check your facts about Aruba before you spout off about things you do not know. Once you have that, then we can chat.

Mrs. Twitty will return to Aruba November 1st to resume her search for her daughter. Mr. Holloway is there now conducting water searches with Texas Equasearch. Yesterday, October 21, was Natalee's 19th birthday.

Aruba may have cared and helped with the search in the beginning but there are a lot of Arubans showing their true colors now with all the hateful comments on boards and other such vile acts. I wonder if any American would visit Aruba knowing that Mrs. Twitty has received death threats, a man with a scarred face following her when she is there and a widespread island ploy to urinate in food served to Mrs. Twitty.

Yet, Mrs. Twitty continues with courage & grace to seek justice for her daughter and to bring her home where she deserves to be. She has my admiration and respect. I know that I will never set foot in Aruba!

Thanks so much for letting us know the update on the Hollaway and Twitty families. I have never been to Aruba, and it wouldn't matter if I went or not. The main thing is to find Natalie. May God help her.

I happen to know quite a bit ore than you might think. The business im in and the people i deal deal with allow me to see situations that the average person never could or would imagin possible. Believe what you want, it must be nice to go through life thinking every thing is nice and people are perfect.

THIS GOES OUT TO THE SO CALLED ARUBA FAN...HOW PATHETIC ARE YOU REALLY? YOU ARE JUST AS DISGUSTING AS THE THREE BOYS THAT GOT AWAY WITH THE CRIME AGAINST NATALEE HOLLAWAY. BE REAL, COMMON SENSE POINTS TO THE LOSERS OF ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello,
I've worked with the police in a nearby country, and am not naiive to what can happen to a free floating person without protection and guardianship. I blame the problem on liberal trust that everyone is benevolent and benign regardless of race or color. Liberals in public schools should never be allowed to take children out of the country. Everyone hates America, and they cannot believe it.
I am familiar with the ABC islands, I was a target of abduction with my girl friend, to avoid a fight with her, I said she could go with these guys on a tour without me, guess what, they wanted us both. To kill me and rape her, kill her and dispose of us like Natallie). In the ABC islands you yahe a natural removal current that takes any refuse away from the islands, providing you deposit it on the north peak. To let a body go, you put a weight that alows bouyancy so it won't drag on the bottom. after two weeks or less, the body decomposes and falls to pieces, then the fish and crabs eat the rest. Here is what happened in my oppinion: I bekieve she went wit friends to Orangjestadt and met the three boys, she got drunk and Van sloot toook her home by car, but not straight. The other two boys tagged along because she was drunk. The white boy had sex with her and the two colored boys took the oppotunity to have a white girl, she protested and they strangled her and went home. The white boy was stuck with a strangled american in his car and went home to his dad. There are two paths that bodies get disposed off, first is the dead goat and second id the dead fish. Know where they dispose of these two, and search there. Looking on the side of the island with the natural bridge, is a waste of time, anything dropped on that side of the island will wash ashore.
Whoever suggested looking there should also be a criminal suspect or a fool.

After the boy came home with the dead girl and told his dad, he was told to clean the car.
His dad bagged the corpse and took it by himself to north point.
In the moment of excitement, and confusion, his dad had sex with the corpse before weighing it down and floating it off the north point of Aruba (in my opinion, because that's the kind of cold response I would expect from him after viewing his actions on TV). After a week the body dropped into the waters off of the shore of Panama or Costa Rica.
This is my theory, based on my experience of ABC island people and the geology of Aruba.
Crime happens when opportunity is available. That is why terrorist choose, dark, unarmed, liberal locations to launch their criminal activities.

[font=Comic Sans MS] [/font] [B] I think it is a terrible tradegy that this young lady is still missing in this small island and also that the people who are in charge there have screwed up from the start..i would never travel there after this and also from hearing about the others who went missing there, such as amy bradley.......whether or not joran or the brothers murdered her , they know what happened and instead of telling the truth , they are the cause of any boycott if one does happen..the people over there should be looking at the government , joran, and the kalpoe brothers for the blame ..

Everyone agrees that the people of Aruba are innocent. It is the politics of the Island that need boycotting. Unfortunatley the people of Aruba are lead by their government.
It is not safe to go to an island where who you know or do not know will result in attention to a crim committed. Cover ups are done all the time. Natalie Holloway's disapperance is bringing loud and clear for the world to see what corruption in government does. In most cases, without world wide attention, 2 black island boys would be today sitting in jail. Case of the missing girl closed.
The procecutor will not even sit down and talk with Natalie's mother. I wonder why? Perhaps she is also a mother and cannot look this mother in the eye for a case that she knows is a cover up.
Corruption on that island is clear. They never expected the attention to go on this long. Are you safe in Aruba? Not if anything happened to you, and the crime was committed by an officials son, that is for sure. Shoud we boycott Aruba? Yes, until all countries learn to live in integrity it should be made known that the eyes of the world are watching and they should be held accountable.
Do the people of Aruba deserve this? No. They need to elect (as we do in this country) honest governments to protect and serve and those who visit thier country.

I have a beautiful little girl. I can't even imagine what the Hollaway's are going through. I know we try to protect our children but the parents of Joran should be ashamed of themselves if they know anything about Natalie. How would they feel if their son disappeared. Would they want answers?? I know I will never go to Aruba where something like this can just be swept under the rug by the government. Someone needs to take responsibility for their actions and speak up. Give Natalie's family some peace.

I agree with all of you and I do believe most feel this way. I was reading on a couple of other Aruba message boards and those people have an ungodly lack of regard for human life from what I was reading. They have no empathy toward the Hollway family and blame Natalee's mother for the boycott and had the worst things to say about Beth Twitty and their family. these are American tourists. I couldn't believe it. I have never been to Aruba and I support the boycott 100%. I do feel very sorry for the locals there who make the living with tourists as do most islands, but their government should be lookingout for these people, not the tourists. Just needed to vent. thanks.

from the standpoint that there are virtually few places in the world where we are entirely safe from the evils that perpetuate society anywhere. aruba being no different. in america we lock doors, teach our children not to trust strangers, not to test the waters too freely, refrain from subjecting ourselves to dangers. we read american papers and see violence and benevolence and nothing prevents our own preverse behaviors here on our own soil. terrible what has happened to natalie, nightmarish, we may never know. the same thing could occur here in our backyards, in fact, it has... as far as corruption in aruba, naturally ... everywhere.

I'm a Dutch citizen who is rather annoyed by how some Americans are responding to this tragedy, and I will try to argue a case is aquited of most of these baseless (or very based actually) statements. I'll be quoting people here so I might be stating the same more then once.

You people in Aruba know what happened to Miss Hollaway,it's obvious by the way the suspects were not detained until two weeks had gone by!

Claiming all the people of Aruba know what happened to her is ridicules, some people on Aruba probally know what happened to her, but most likely they are involved in her disappearance in one way or another and aren't going to talk unless some substantial evidence turns up.
I do realise that the Aruban authorities were sluggish at the start of the investigation, however I think the Arubian authorities at first considered this a case of someone who just didn't want to go home, this is no excuse obviously, but it is understandable.

On the other hand however, this is a quote of cnn, from June 8th, 2005:
Twitty said authorities have been forthcoming with Holloway's relatives. "It's just that the laws in Aruba are different, and the way they do their investigations is totally different than they do in the United States. It's difficult, it's frustrating, but on the other hand I do feel like they're doing everything they can do to try to find Natalee."
Source

Also, the first suspects were arrested on June 6th, one day after it was announced that the investigation into the dissappearance of Natalee had become a criminal case. Although it later turns out these man had nothing to do with Natalees' disappearance. These people were arrested based on a testimony by the Kalpoe brothers, and possibly by Joran van der Sloot.
(Source)
The two security guards were later released (on the 13th) because there was no evidence to hold them longer, and not because Beth Twitty said they were innocent.

Joran van der Sloot and the Kaploe brothers were arrested on the 9th of June, they were not arrested earlier because:
Authorities said the three were the last people seen with Holloway, who was in Aruba on a high school graduation trip. She was seen leaving an Oranjestad nightclub, Carlos 'N Charlie's, with them about 1:30 a.m. on May 30, they said.

In previous questioning, the three told police they visited a beach with Holloway before taking her back to her hotel, the Holiday Inn, about 2 a.m.
But
Authorities said their witness statements did not lead to the three arrests, but that police had been watching the youths ever since they were questioned shortly after Holloway's disappearance.
Source

It was indeed follish not to arest them earlier. This could have been a result of racism, discrimination, or indeed, the police willing to believe the son of a highly respected laywer, however I don't feel this is proof for a cover up of any kind.

I honestly think that she was slipped something in her drink at Carlos N Charlies such as Extacy or another powerful drug. Which would explain why she was "tippsy" and not coherent when she left the bar. I also believe that Joran did take her to a beach and they were making out or what normal kids do, and she died from the over dose. Being teenagers and being scared, I think the dad and the friends were brought in to "get rid" of her...

I mostly agree with this assement and this is what I find most reasonable as to what happened to her, but I'd like to state for the record that ecstacy is, according to the DEA, a stimulant with hallucinogenic properties, the psychedelic effects of which can last between 4 and 6 hours. It is usually taken orally in pill form. The psychological effects of ecstasy include confusion, depression, anxiety, sleeplessness, drug craving, and paranoia.
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Not the most logical party rape drug if you think about it.
According to the DEA, Rohypnol, Ketamine and GHB are the most used party rape drugs. (Source)

According to this website (it is a link from the DEAs' website, so I believe it is credible) the effects of rape drugs include:
Rohypnol:
Rohypnol may cause drowsiness, confusion, impaired motor skills, dizziness, disorientation, disinhibition, impaired judgment, and reduced levels of consciousness. You may look and act like someone who is drunk. Your speech may be slurred, and you may have difficulty standing or walking. Or, you may be rendered completely unconscious.

GHB:
GHB can cause dizziness, nausea, vomiting, confusion, seizures, respiratory depression, and intense drowsiness. In some cases, GHB causes unconsciousness or coma. As a result, you may not be able to recall what happened to you while you were under the influence of the drug.

Ketamine:
Ketamine is fast acting. It can cause dizziness, confusion, disorientation, hallucinations, agitation, impaired motor skills, high blood pressure, and potentially fatal respiratory failure. Because of its dissociative effects, you may feel detached from your own body and your surroundings, a state sometimes referred to as “conscious sedation.” You may be aware of what is happening to you, but unable to move. You may lose consciousness abruptly. Ketamine can also produce depression and amnesia. It is especially dangerous when it is mixed with alcohol or other drugs.

GHB and Ketamine don't seem like likely candidates in this situation, Rohypnol could have been used, but I think Natalee was just drunk and willingly went with them.

Hi, I am from Canada. I landed in Aruba and went to the Holiday Inn on May 29th - the day before Natalee went missing. Let me tell you something - I did not see one local police officer in that hotel - as a male guest staying with another male guest, I would have thought the place would be crawling with local police at least questioning everyone there in order to determine if anyone saw her. Nothing! The only presence at that hotel was her family organizing a search for their daughter and the American news media (thank God for the pressure the American News media exerted on the local justice system otherwise I don't think the locals would have done anything).

I can only speculate on this, but it indeed took a few days before this case was recognised as possibly a criminal case and any serious effort was put into it.

That being said, the locals should be ashamed at how long it took them to organize a search and how long it took them to detain and interrogate the people that were last seen with her.

See previous comments about the detaining, but according to cCNN the search (which included locals) started before June 4th, also FBI agents were searching the island:
Aruba's Prime Minister Nelson O. Oduber said Friday that more FBI agents had been added to help in the search, and efforts will be concentrated around coastal areas. Aiding the FBI and Aruba police in the search are Holloway's family members, tourists, Aruban nationals and Dutch marines."/i]
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How soon do you want them to start searching anyway?

And on June 12th CNN reports:
[i]Aruba's government employees today joined police, Dutch marines and FBI agents in the search for 18-year-old Alabama student Natalee Holloway, who vanished a week ago on the Caribbean island.
[...]
Janssen also said she has requested FBI dive teams to help search craggy areas of Aruba's coast.

An FBI spokesman in Miami, Florida, said earlier reports that bureau divers would join the search Monday were in error, as was a report that its agents assisted in Sunday's arrests.

Seven FBI agents from Miami are in Aruba, including two divers and evidence collection and analysis experts, and one agent has come from Barbados, the spokesman said.
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On June 15th CNN reports:
A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began in the afternoon ended Tuesday night with apparently no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
[...]
A source close to the probe said search participants included five FBI agents and a search dog from Miami-Dade County, Florida, in addition to Aruban police.
[...]
A fire truck brought in a pump that was used to drain parts of the property, which is sandwiched between the main highway that goes around the coast and the beach area next to the Marriott Hotel.
[...]
"People have gone over the area [before] but not as intensely as this time," Trapenberg said, adding that every part of the island was being checked.

He said Aruba requested and had received additional technical assistance from Dutch and U.S. authorities, but didn't elaborate.
[...]
"I feel like that we are working in a collaborative effort," Beth Holloway Twitty told CNN's "American Morning."

"From the family to the FBI to the local authorities to the Aruban government to the U.S. government, I feel like we are all in this investigation, and I do feel like we are beginning to proceed forward. ... That's where I want to go because that will help us find our daughter."
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On June 18th CNN reports
Despite a massive search operation throughout the island, Aruban authorities have found no sign of Holloway.
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On June 22nd CNN reports
A search-and-rescue organization from Texas was expected to arrive in Aruba late Tuesday to help look for Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen who has been missing for more than three weeks.
[...]
The 17 former and current law enforcement officers who comprise the search team are committed to spending at least five days in Aruba, Miller said.
[...]
[The local attorney hired by the Holloway family] said police investigators have brought in behavioral and demeanor experts from the United States to sit in on interviews with the three suspects arrested initially.
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On June 25th CNN reports
A team of Texas search specialists began a full-fledged hunt Saturday for Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.
[...]
The team searched a wetlands area and also the northern tip of the island near its landmark lighthouse, combing the beaches with the dog. After borrowing a boat, the team installed side-scanning sonar equipment and conducted a water search.
[...]
The dogs, considered highly trained, [...]
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On July 11th CNN reports:
"Photos taken by Dutch reconnaissance jets have found no sign that Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway remains in Aruba, a government spokesman said Monday.

Final examinations of the photos will be conducted back in the Netherlands, Aruban government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said.

But authorities are "99 percent sure" that Holloway, who was last seen early on May 30, is no longer on the island, he said.

Three F-16s from the Dutch air force, equipped with lasers and special cameras, made several passes over the island last week in hopes of finding some clue to Holloway's disappearance.

Each of the planes was equipped with a television infrared camera, two daylight cameras and a 12-inch lens housed in pods slung beneath the aircraft.
[...]
The search for Holloway has also involved hundreds of volunteers, including a team from Texas EquuSearch, a group that also brought in dogs and side-scan sonar equipment.
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(I'll refrain from quoting more newsstatements as the quote I responded to was made on July 12th)

So I'd say everything possible was done to find here

Trust me, that judge they brought in from the local island of Curacao spent his weekends golfing with Paul Van der Sloot - both islands are under Dutch rule and the legal circle is very small. Americans, stay away until the Aruban/Dutch Government puts a real effort into this search!

Great, just somebodies well educated oppinion, this isn't even worth responding to.

BUT WAIT, if I were drugged, how would I know I was leaving with strangers?

As one of my above statements should make clear, drugs don't turn you into a mindless zombie.

If I were the Gov. and calling the shots on that Island, I would have allowed the US, FBI, etc., to run the investigation without delay. We have the advanced technology, resources and skills to conduct such an investigation and I believe it would have been solved by now.

Ever heard of a term called "Sovereign Nation"? Besides the FBI is involved in the case, as should be clear from my above statements. (I could quote a few more news articles, but I wont, maybe for a different post.)

Are there any pictures of the three boys and Natilee taken in the bar? Does the bar have video camera's with the pictures of that night? What about outher witnesses? It wouold seem that a search warrant could be obtained to search the van der Sloot's place. Why won't he allow them to search, is he hidding something? Besides, Is the father involved in this more than has been shown?

The Van Der Sloot residence has been searched, twice.
On June 10th CNN reports
Three more suspects were arrested Thursday in the investigation into the disappearance of Alabama 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba, bringing those in custody to five.
[...]
Police searched the homes afterward. At a news conference later, police said they seized a vehicle and other items but declined to elaborate.
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On June 15h CNN reports
Authorities searched the home Wednesday of a 17-year-old detained in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager more than two weeks ago.
[...]
It was unclear why police revisited the home of Joran Van Der Sloot,[...]

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whatever happend to that duct tape they found on the beach? was it her hair they found in it?

Part of it was sent to the Dutch Forensic Institute, part was sent to an FBI lab.
Aruban investigators were sending a sample to a lab in the Netherlands and shared it with the FBI. It was not known when the hair would be sent to the FBI's crime lab in Quantico, Virginia.
CNN, July 18th

The hair turned out not be of Natalee.
DNA taken from strands of blond hair stuck to duct tape found on a beach in Aruba does not match the DNA of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, an FBI spokeswoman said Thursday.
CNN, July 29th

My personal opinion is that Natalie is on the VanDerSluth property as they asked the father if they could search the property and he knew that they had to give permission before they searched and so he said "no". He, as a judge, knew they couldn't do it without his permission. I thought the mother and stepfather were not going to leave until they found her. Does anyone know anything else?

Like I said earlier, the residence was searched, and they did not need Van Der Sloots permission to do so in the first place, he may be a trainy judge, he's not above the law.

We must never forget how fortunate we are, although we complain some, to live in this wonderful country. We have beaches and islands, much more beautiful than Aruba...... Why have we gotten so accustomed to traveling out of our country, where they don't have our wonderful constitution happening. In Aruba, people are not equal. That was proven over and over. The reason all of the evidence that was given, either disappeard, or was discarded, or overlooked, or ignored, is because Mr. Paulus Van dersloot is a priviledged character.

This is a very interesting statement, basicly it comes down to this:
The US is wonderful save place without crime, corruption or cover ups
Aruba is a corrupt banana republic.
Well according to the 2005 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index released by the Berlin-based organization Transparency International, which is a respect organisation on this subject, the Netherlands scored an 8.6 (on a scale of 1-10, 1 being the worst, 10 being the best), ranking, along with the UK 11th, however the US scored a 7.6, a full point lower and ranked 17. Denmark scored a perfect 10 and ranked first, Chad and Bangladesh both scored an 1.7 and ranked last.
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Just some insight for those who believe in one giant cover up.

Mrs. Twitty will return to Aruba November 1st to resume her search for her daughter. Mr. Holloway is there now conducting water searches with Texas Equasearch. Yesterday, October 21, was Natalee's 19th birthday.

Aruba may have cared and helped with the search in the beginning but there are a lot of Arubans showing their true colors now with all the hateful comments on boards and other such vile acts. I wonder if any American would visit Aruba knowing that Mrs. Twitty has received death threats, a man with a scarred face following her when she is there and a widespread island ploy to urinate in food served to Mrs. Twitty.

One cannot blame Beth Twitty for her frustrations with this case, however, one cannot blame the Arubians for being frustrated with how this case has been handeled in the media either, their anger against Beth Twitty is IMO misdirected though.

THIS GOES OUT TO THE SO CALLED ARUBA FAN...HOW PATHETIC ARE YOU REALLY? YOU ARE JUST AS DISGUSTING AS THE THREE BOYS THAT GOT AWAY WITH THE CRIME AGAINST NATALEE HOLLAWAY. BE REAL, COMMON SENSE POINTS TO THE LOSERS OF ARUBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for your very diplomatic and balanced input into this discusion
Aruba Fan has a different oppinion then you and is therefor is wrong?
Although I believe Natalee is fish food by now, and I believe Joran van der Sloot is involved in one way or another, this is totally irrellivant, as I cannot prove any of this, if you have some information I don't have and can infact prove they are guilty, please do contact the Arubian Authorities or the FBI with this information and let justice be done, but as long as it can't be proven that Joran van der Sloot (or anyone else) commited a crime, he is innocent. This is called the principal of 'innocent untill proven guilty', something both the Dutch and the American legal system are based on, but I'm afriad the American public has taken a stance of 'guilty until proven innocent' in this case, which is something which troubles me deeply.

The procecutor will not even sit down and talk with Natalie's mother. I wonder why? Perhaps she is also a mother and cannot look this mother in the eye for a case that she knows is a cover up.

After what Beth Twitty and the American media and public has done? After Beth started her own investigation without consulting her? With the FBI increasingly demanding more and more? With the FBI releasing possible sensative information about the case to the media, without even consulting her about it (or even telling her this information)? With the American media and public demonizing Aruba? With the American media undermining her investigation? With the American public which has already turned Joran van der Sloot into a scape goat for this all?
Well, I can only wonder why she wouldn't want to meet her


I hope this provides some insight into this case, I could have done much more and adressed many more (false) points, but this is what is handeled here on this forum, so bringing in more points wasn't neccesary, but I'm willing to adress future points and comments on this point should they be made